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The are using the "sale to minors" as their means to get a foothold in door. Stores aren't doing a very good job ID'ing young people to stop minors from buying. Its at the same rate though as regular tobacco products.

They should focus on sale to minors which is the root of the problem. The laws really don't do much to people who sell tobacco products to minors... for the most part it's just a slap on the wrist for the first handful of times they are actually caught.

Right on! It is (and always has been) the gate keepers that have been asleep at the wheel. Kids can buy tobacco, alcohol, vapes, get into R rated movies and all manner of things they shouldn't have access to (and legally they don't). Focus on the sales, not that a product exists. I'm not sure at this point but I could be convinced that vapes (and tobacco and alcohol) should only be available at restricted specialty stores that check IDs at the door. This would also create jobs in smaller rural communities where such stores don't exist and is already the law (for alcohol) in some states.
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General Vaping Discussions / Re: Defending e-cigs on a drone forum.
« Last post by pwmeek on December 11, 2019, 10:50:40 PM »
<snip>  dont think you want to hear about me buying a charger for my istick<snip>
Au contraire, we await this news with bated* breath.

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* unlike the cat that ate some Double Gloucester and waited by the mousehole with baited breath.
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General Vaping Discussions / Re: Defending e-cigs on a drone forum.
« Last post by caz on December 11, 2019, 04:37:52 PM »
Great post cy   8)


No change for me either,    dont think you want to hear about me buying a charger for my istick   :D


As for all the health news lately,    luckily i dont have to deal with that from my family any longer as my sister vapes and is usually with me and they dont wanna take on two of us   :/X


Nothing really new with all the vaping health scares/alerts,   we have dealt with those for over a decade   and probably will as long as money is being lost.
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General Vaping Discussions / Re: Defending e-cigs on a drone forum.
« Last post by Darth Vaper on December 11, 2019, 02:52:50 PM »
I understand Cy.. pretty much the same here.... I live a very boring vape life. Not a bad thing though.
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General Vaping Discussions / Re: Defending e-cigs on a drone forum.
« Last post by CYBORG on December 10, 2019, 09:37:11 PM »
Only haven't posted much because everything is the same with me Darth.
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General Vaping Discussions / Re: Defending e-cigs on a drone forum.
« Last post by Darth Vaper on December 10, 2019, 04:58:10 PM »
Hey Lou good to see you post again... you too Cy.

Yeah all these health issues reported in the news lately have caused me to deal with a lot of grief from ill informed family and friends. One went back to smoking because of it  :{

Easiest way I have defended it is that after a good decade there were no problems.. once THC and CBD oils hit the market there is a problem. I just explain that oils never truly vaporize... they atomize only to become a oil in your lungs.

Usually end with "FAKE NEWS" and they shut up after that.

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General Vaping Discussions / Re: Defending e-cigs on a drone forum.
« Last post by oldude on December 10, 2019, 10:48:16 AM »
Hi  All,
Many,many years ago, I grew up on a farm in middle Tennessee.  We raised burley tobacco--our only money crop.  The same big fat green catapillars that eat tomato plants also find tobacco delicious.  My mother would sew cloth bags big enough to hold about half a pound of arsenic.  When the plants were about 2 feet tall, we would hold the bags over the plants and pop our arm down; this arm motion spread the arsenic all over the plants to keep the tobacco worms away.  This method was very efficient--it did it's job!!!
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General Vaping Discussions / Defending e-cigs on a drone forum.
« Last post by CYBORG on December 09, 2019, 04:18:18 PM »
 On Mavic Pilots forum.
After someone's strobe light battery caught fire, the usual reference to e-cigs exploding started along with how bad they are in general.

 
My responses.
 
As a user of e-cigarettes for the last 12 years I can assure you they are no more dangerous than any other device containing a battery, all the e-cigs I have use 18650 battery's the same as in most power tools and laptops (at leas the older ones) but they use multiples connected together I use one or two.

 As this thread highlights a strobe light set itself on fire but it wasnít covered by the national press.

 
 With all the money behind the tobacco industry they make it a priority to leak any story true or alleged that could harm those horrible intruders into there profits namely the e-cig.
 
 Remember how fast the exploding iPhones & Samsung phones disappeared from the press because everyone has a phone, e-cigs are a better target.


 
And

 
E-cigs donít use oil, they use vegetable glycerine like you get from a chemists for a sore throat along with phama grade propylene glycol as used in many foods and drinks and what basically amounts to food flavouring for taste.

 
Cigarettes killed my wife and I couldn't say if vaping is 100% safe but its safer than burning tobacco, it hasnít got arsenic in it and that's only one of the thousands in burning tobacco.
I am confident if my wife had vaped she would still be alive. 

 
Facts are facts Ė Headlines can be reportedly, allegedly or simply fake news.
Sorry if I sound condescending  but this is something I feel strongly about.   
 
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General Vaping Discussions / Re: The Waiting Room..
« Last post by CYBORG on December 02, 2019, 08:25:45 PM »
You posted to late for me Darth, just ordered another Pico but would have given the Swag a go if I hadn't.
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General Vaping Discussions / Re: The Waiting Room..
« Last post by Darth Vaper on December 02, 2019, 06:43:16 PM »
Waiting for two more Vaporesso Swags to come from the slow boat from China.... can't find any locally or from any other vendors I'm familiar with. Really do like this device... figured I would get a couple just to have... the original one is still going strong... finish is getting a bit worn but still works as good as day 1. Single battery devices are getting a little hard to come by these days.. figured this will hold me for some time as things do not seem to be changing on that front. It's just like the Pico .. just a bit nicer looking in my opinion and pairs perfectly with a Kayfun Prime atty.

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