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Eliquid Discussions => Mixing Section => Topic started by: breaktru on April 06, 2013, 09:44:50 AM
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eJuice Me Up version 12.0.0.0 (http://www.ejuice.breaktru.com) has just been released with 2 more flavoring lines added now totaling 7.
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Nice ;D
Best calculator out there, in my opinion. You've done a great job with it :) use it every day.
Any other release notes?
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Nice ;D
Best calculator out there, in my opinion. You've done a great job with it :) use it every day.
Any other release notes?
Thank you Pete.
To keep up with the latest releases, check out: Update History (http://ejuice.breaktru.com/update_history.txt)
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New version 12.2.0.0 has been released!
Red warning text added for PG and VG when ratios are indicating a minus amount.
There has always been a pop-up warning but I felt an additional warning was needed for the few that have disregarded the pop-up warnings.
New recipes also added. If you have it installed already, setup will do an update only.
Download at: http://ejuice.breaktru.com (http://ejuice.breaktru.com)
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I have released version 13.0.0.1 with the note window visible on the main form. I left the Notepad option for those who have already created notes for their recipes.
The form is now landscape in order to fit everything on the screen. Download Here (http://"http://breaktru.com/ejuicemeup.zip")
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download link not working. :(
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download link not working. :(
I don't see a problem with the download.
Is this what you used? http://breaktru.com/ejuicemeup.zip (http://breaktru.com/ejuicemeup.zip)
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download link not working. :(
I don't see a problem with the download.
Is this what you used? http://breaktru.com/ejuicemeup.zip (http://breaktru.com/ejuicemeup.zip)
that link works lol ty :)+1 p.s love ya calculater m8 very good.
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Can you save recipes on this? w:)w
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Can you save recipes on this? w:)w
Of course you can
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Can you save recipes on this? w:)w
yep m8 just create file on your desktop called recipies then open the program make a juice then click file in the top left and then click save. chose the file on ya desktop and job done. tbh its a dam good program i have about 18 recipies saved and i like it alot. best program i seen so far.
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I like your calculator Breaktru....use it all the time
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I've tried a few calculators in the past months, this one is by far the best..Good work :)+1
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Thanks guys. Glad you like it
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eJuice Me Up v14.0.0.0 has been released.
Shortcut keys for menu choices were added.
A dozen new recipes added.
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eJuice Me Up v14.0.0.0 has been released.
Shortcut keys for menu choices were added.
A dozen new recipes added.
Thank you for your hard work breakthru! :)+1
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eJuice Me Up v14.1 has been released.
New recipes added.
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Why do i get this message,
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Only pg i use in my mix is from the flavourings
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Because you are not using enough PG
Either dilutant, or flavour
Depending on how much flavour, ie - 80/20 VG/PG would mean you need 20% flavour if you are only using flavour for the PG
Adjust the PG/VG ratio :)+1
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Only pg i use is from the flavour.. i want a "100%" vg juice
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Only pg i use is from the flavour.. i want a "100%" vg juice
Well
As you are using PG as flavour
I can promise, you will never have 100% VG juice :))
If you use 10% flavour you can have 90/10
Or if you use 1% flavour you can have 99/1
But you will never have pure VG
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Only pg i use is from the flavour.. i want a "100%" vg juice
Well
As you are using PG as flavour
I can promise, you will never have 100% VG juice :))
If you use 10% flavour you can have 90/10
Or if you use 1% flavour you can have 99/1
But you will never have pure VG
thats why i used "" :)
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So get as close as you "can" with as little flavour as possible
I tend to use 50/50 these days, plenty of flavour and clouds :)
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With 50/50 i can't use nicotine in my rda's .. to heavy throate hits:o
i will try to adjust to 20/80
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With 50/50 i can't use nicotine in my rda's .. to heavy throate hits:o
i will try to adjust to 20/80
Torb, I am not familiar with that calculator, but if you just put in the amounts you want for the flavor; it should tell you how much total dilutant to add. It may say PG . . . but just put that same amount of VG in your mix.
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Adjust your target PG/VG ratio so that the PG that you add comes out to 0% PG
If you want, post a screen shot of what you are using and I can suggest to you your Target ratio
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With a 20/80 mix the calculator want me to add 0.1ml pg.. so i guess i'm good to go :)
Thanx for helping me out :)
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With a 20/80 mix the calculator want me to add 0.1ml pg.. so i guess i'm good to go :)
Thanx for helping me out :)
Yeah, you can always just add that .1ml of vg to make it the highest possible VG for that recipe.
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eJuice Me Up version 14.2 has been released for downloading.
Additional recipes have been added.
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eJuice Me Up version 14.2 has been released for downloading.
Additional recipes have been added.
I love this calculator, and have been using it for over 2 years.
There is one thing about it I wish you could/would adjust, and that's the "drops per ml"
You can only enter one option, and PG/VG/and flavorings all have a different count.
As it is now, I print it out with the drop count of my nic.
Then after printing it out, I go back and put the count in for the PG, calculate it, then again for the VG, then again for the flavoring.
I make the correction for each on the printed sheet.
It would really be nice to be able to have a section where you could enter the "drops per ml" for each, so when printed, I didn't have to go back and change them.
I have no idea if this is possible, but thought I would ask.
Like I said, I love this calculator and I will continue to use it, even though I have to make the adjustments.
Thanks
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Thanks slots. Glad you like the calc.
After I finish the 10 flavor version, I'll look into the drops.
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Thanks slots. Glad you like the calc.
After I finish the 10 flavor version, I'll look into the drops.
Wow, that was a fast reply.
I wasn't sure the thread was still active.
Thank you for adding it to the "too do" list for consideration.
Looking forward to what you come up with next :()()
Slots
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The 10 flavor version is complete. I just need to test it out awhile longer
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eJuice Me Up version 14.6 now has 10 flavoring lines
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eJuice Me Up version 15.0 has been released for downloading
Added grams weight measuring. Go to the menu "Tools", "Grams Set" and enter your weights.
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Looks good.
I have a few suggestions:
Move the Target Nicotine Strength and Amount to Make lines down with the Target PG/VG line. All the other values in that top block are input amounts. This gets the three "output" parameter lines grouped together.
In the Resulting Recipe, if there is no flavor listed on a recipe line - display blanks instead of zeros. By the same token, if Water/Vodka/PGA is not used, don't list it at all in the Resulting Recipe.
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Fixed decimal recognition of comma where PC regional settings use a comma rather than a dot for decimal separator. See version 15.4
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Latest version is 15.5.4
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I'd like to give a shout out to you for the best damned mix software in print.
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I'd like to give a shout out to you for the best damned mix software in print.
Thank you venom. I really appreciate the compliment.
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It is certainly the most versatile spreadsheet. Very nice.
Make the changes I suggested and it would be even better. O:-)
A few additional suggestions:
When labeling the concentrations of the source solutions, change the labels to "mg/ml".
Make the spreadsheet dynamic - rather than having to press the Calculate button.
You might consider adding the ability to use two different nicotine base concentrations. For example, I have some in both 30 mg/ml and 100 mg/ml.
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By the way, it is possible to use the calculator to boost the nicotine concentration of a premixed juice - if you are willing to put up with a bit of flavor reduction - or can order it with extra flavor shots. This would be desirable if the vendor does not sell the higher nicotine concentration you desire. Just use the premixed juice as the "flavor". But you will need some nicotine base in the PG/VG ratio that you desire.
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Its the best one out there by miles I just used it to make blueberry maple pancake fingers crossed
I got the ingredients right :u)
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Got told about this a while ago, seeing this post just reminded me- going to download it and get going.
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Its the best one out there by miles I just used it to make blueberry maple pancake fingers crossed
I got the ingredients right :u)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/oksv90.jpg)
I wouldn't mix anywhere close to that 200 ml at a first attempt. If I were fairly confident that only minor tweaking would be necessary, I might mix 20 ml. For a first attempt at a new mixture, I would mix 2 ml.
Since that is a "cake" mixture, it may require a month or more of steeping.
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So would I need to adjust the amount of flavouring ie if making 10ml of juice & that tasted fine
Then wanted to make 200ml would I use the same amount of flavour or need to up the flavouring
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Determine the amount of the flavoring needed for your desired 10 ml experiment.
Then, when wanting to make a new batch, divide the new volume in ml by 10 ml to get the new flavoring amount.
For example, to make that 200 ml of solution, you would want 200/10 = 20 times as much of the flavoring.
So if you used 1 ml of flavoring in your developed experimental 10 ml batch, you would use 20 ml for the 200 ml batch.
But I wouldn't suggest making 200 ml of the juice as your second batch. I would make maybe 50 ml. If that also turned out fine, then you could probably mix a large batch.
Keep in mind that you might get tired of a mixture before you used up a large batch. It is not that hard to mix in smaller batches - I mix ones I know I will be using frequently in 30 ml batches.
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I normally only vape vanilla custard and am trying to do larger mixes ie 200ml in 4 x 50ml bottles
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I'm a newb, so don't kill me. I'm just running some numbers to do test batches in theory. The batch I'm running is 30pg/70vg, but I'm getting 4.46ml pg and only 3.74ml vg. Shouldn't the numbers at least be skewed in the other direction even if they don't seem right?
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What is your Nic PG/VG ratio? How much flavoring are you adding.
A screenshot would help.
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I'm a moron. I'm not entering all of the values. I'm just not understanding how to use it correctly. Sorry.
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ha, ha. no problem, glad you sorted it out.
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I made 200ml of vanilla custard and it still smells chemically after a month any ideas where I went wrong
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Have you tested it? does it taste chemically?
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Yes bloody horrible lol
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oh dear, this is why i said only make small batches :P
Not sure what has gone wrong, you would have to put up exactly what you did, the calculations etc and see if anyone can work out what happened.
i know custard needs to steep for ages, but i dont think it should taste horrible while being steeped, i'm no custard connoisseur though so what do i know :D
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Just went to go on the ejuice me up
And all I get is this what's going on
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strange, i just clicked on the links to the website in ejuicemeup's profile and our links directory and not getting that page pop up.
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I can assure you that the ejuice me up web page is SAFE.
You are using Microsoft Smartscreen filtering which is showing a FALSE positive.
I notified Microsoft of the FALSE positive when using Microsoft Edge and Smartscreen enabled.
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Maybe a Win10 issue
Does the same for me, it was the one in Breaktru's sig so assume its real :))
I just disregarded and carried on :))
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Of course Win10 still uses smart screen filter even when you turn it off :o
Use these instructions and you can download the file
http://www.top-password.com/blog/how-to-turn-off-smartscreen-filter-in-windows-10-or-8/
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I use firefox with Windows 10 so I was unaware of the block using Edge. Thanks retrieverman for bringing it to my attention.
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I normally use my iPad with no problems just happened to have my laptop turned on so tried to
Use it and that was all I got smart filter now turned off cheers Dan x}
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Still would not let me download to my laptop so download on my old windows 7 laptop then transferred to memory stick then put it on my windows 10 works fine now lol
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I love this calculator. In the next update, would it be possible to be able to save numerous flavor gram weights??. That would be awesome.
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Why bother? You may be the only person in existence that uses gram weights for juice mixing. ;D
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I love this calculator. In the next update, would it be possible to be able to save numerous flavor gram weights??. That would be awesome.
Does 10ml of VG weigh more than 10ml of PG?
Serious question, just miffed a bit :(
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Yes, roughly 20% more. VG has density 1.26 gm/cm3, PG has a density of 1.04 gm/cm3.
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#@#
Think I will stick to ml's :)+1
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Why bother? You may be the only person in existence that uses gram weights for juice mixing. ;D
It's actually pretty common. Obvisiosly the volume method is fine, especially if you are mixing a juice with just one or two flavours but if you are using a recipe with 5-8 flavours, weighing is easier with no clean up after.
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Pretty common where? In standard chemistry, liquids are measured by volume and solids are measured by weight. This is true even when making up standard solutions (probably the most precise measuring commonly done). Most of the solvent is added to the volumetric flask, the solute is added and dissolved, then more solvent is added to bring the total volume up to the calibration line.
With a graduated cylinder, there is little more clean-up than using your method, and a simple water wash/rinse is sufficient. The needle dripper bottles of flavoring makes volumetric measuring easy.
All the juice formulas I have see give percentages by volume. Unless you know the specific gravities of each flavoring solution, your "by weight" method is not accurate.
Like Dan, I will stick with ml's to the nearest 1/10 ml. If I wanted to be really anal about it, I have the equipment to measure in micro-liters - but it is not worth the effort. Even if only mixing 10 ml of juice, 0.1 ml is 1% of the total volume - and I can interpolate to half that or 0.5%.
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It's cool man, I have the gravity weights for the flavours I use. I never said my way was the only way or the best way. I simply said it was easier, quicker and less cleaning up for me. If anyone wants to look into it, google it. Tons of info and lots of threads on various vaping forums. I meant it was quite common amongst diyers. Maybe not any on this forum but others yes.
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That's a touchy subject among DIYers. Seen a lot of fighting between gram-ers and the ml-ers.
I personally use syringes and can mix up a recipe and clean up in very little time. I have also mixed by weight but prefer by volume.
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each to their own i say, although i would like to add i hate mixing :D
Hi dave, good to see ya x:)x
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Didn't realize it was a touchy subject. I did start out using volume and then read up and decided to try by weight. Works for me but whatever works for everyone else is cool with me.
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As long as you do the calculations to weight correctly, either method is fine.
In reality, the only somewhat critical measurement is for the nicotine base, and even that does not have to be very precise.
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That's a touchy subject among DIYers. Seen a lot of fighting between gram-ers and the ml-ers.
I personally use syringes and can mix up a recipe and clean up in very little time. I have also mixed by weight but prefer by volume.
I'm a ML'r hybrid.
I measure once using ML's and mix a 1000 times.
I just measure out my nic for the size bottle I'm filling.
I then make a permanent mark on the bottle with a Sharpie.
The flavoring I count the drops (can write it on the side of the bottle)
The PG and VG are done by eye in the 60/40 - 70/30 range.
If it works don't fix it. Honestly you can't mix any easier then that.
I make my current grail 500ml at a time. 8)
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I use pretty much the same process:
1) Measure the proper volume of nicotine base
2) Add flavoring/s by volume
3) Fill the rest of the bottle with premixed PG/VG 50:50.
If a person mixes 100 ml at a time and use 100 mg/ml base, the calculations are trivial:
- The ml of base needed is the same as the desired mg/ml solution - so if you want 24 mg/ml juice, you put 24 ml of base in the bottle.
- The amount of flavoring is equal to the percentage of flavoring desired. So if you want 3% of one flavor and 2% of a second, you add 3 ml of the first flavor and 2 ml of the second flavor to the bottle.
- Using the premixed PG/VG, fill the rest of the bottle with the PG/VG mixture.
Of course, this ignores the carriers for the nicotine base and flavors. I buy my nicotine base premixed 50:50 PG/VG. I only use a few percent total of flavorings, so ignore its contribution to the PG total.