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Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« on: May 12, 2012, 03:36:28 PM »
Okay apart from the fact that the CE4+ get rubbish reports because they have a habit of falling apart and leaking, what is the difference between these devices, all the pictures I look at seem to be identical, is there a difference in the way they vape? I ask becasue a few places are selling them off really cheap because of the leaking issue and I don't mind doing a bit of modding when things are dirt cheap, I cleaned up on the old CE2 last year and spent a happy sunday afternoon gluing and taping and those babies just kept going.
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2012, 03:42:48 PM »
I don't know, I never tried the CE4 because of all the rubbish reviews but will be interesting to know.....thats my (as always) useful bit of input on this one  :)
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2012, 05:10:33 PM »
Okay apart from the fact that the CE4+ get rubbish reports because they have a habit of falling apart and leaking, what is the difference between these devices, all the pictures I look at seem to be identical, is there a difference in the way they vape? I ask becasue a few places are selling them off really cheap because of the leaking issue and I don't mind doing a bit of modding when things are dirt cheap, I cleaned up on the old CE2 last year and spent a happy sunday afternoon gluing and taping and those babies just kept going.

Forgive my ignorance but if that's the case I'd do a bit of modding on them too
would glue be ok to use? If so what kind of glue would be best? And would you
pull them apart before you use them or use them until they leaked then glue them?
Sorry for the stupid question but if I don't ask I'd never know the answer

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2012, 05:33:02 PM »
Forgive my ignorance but if that's the case I'd do a bit of modding on them too
would glue be ok to use? If so what kind of glue would be best? And would you
pull them apart before you use them or use them until they leaked then glue them?
Sorry for the stupid question but if I don't ask I'd never know the answer

Smonkey, I actually used Superglue on the CE2's. I did hmm and ahh over whether I would end up inhaling cyanide, so what I did was go to hobby craft and bought a pen style bottle, a bit like one of those tippex pens, I then glued on the outside of the CE2 around the seam, then taped over the top. It totally stopped them leaking or cracking, I only took them apart if they were already cracked at the connection end, I pushed the insides out with the eraser end of an HB pencil and just switched the tube round so it was sound at the connector end.

The superglue did "eat" at the plastic a little bit, but I didn't feel concerned as it was all on the outside, but it didn't look pretty so if you are all about the looks this might not be a solution for you.

Ohh and edited to add, I did this before I used them :D
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2012, 06:00:46 PM »
Yes my concern was the reaction with the glue.
I've actually been hospitalised by inhaling cyanide
It was an experience I wouldn't wish on anybody. I had to shower before
anybody would come near me and put all my clothes in a black bin bag and
seal it then put on paper underwear and overall suit. Then in the ambulance
I was put on oxygen and taken to hospital via the rear door so no public
could see. I was put in a small windowless room where there was a doctor
and a nurse dressed in a full air fed chemical suit. When they made sure I'd
took all my clothes and jewellery off and showered they again put me on oxygen
for about 4 hours then declared me fit and healthy and sent me home.

Would no nails be a safer option?

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2012, 06:26:59 PM »
Yes my concern was the reaction with the glue.
I've actually been hospitalised by inhaling cyanide
It was an experience I wouldn't wish on anybody. I had to shower before
anybody would come near me and put all my clothes in a black bin bag and
seal it then put on paper underwear and overall suit. Then in the ambulance
I was put on oxygen and taken to hospital via the rear door so no public
could see. I was put in a small windowless room where there was a doctor
and a nurse dressed in a full air fed chemical suit. When they made sure I'd
took all my clothes and jewellery off and showered they again put me on oxygen
for about 4 hours then declared me fit and healthy and sent me home.

Would no nails be a safer option?

EEEEKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!

But that was raw unadulterated cyanide right, not a by product of a thermal reaction with cyanose acrylate (superglue)?

Hmm "No more nails" not sure about the chemical makeup of that but I think it is a rubber compound and I ruled that out as I was concerned about the thermal reaction with that more than the Superglue.

EEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

You've made me think twice about this now :S
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2012, 06:33:59 PM »
Phew now I've calmed down a bit after a large glug of cider, I'm wondering if there is a craft glue that might do the job (I shall be investigating) and on the grounds that I have superglued mugs that go through a superwash on my dishwasher at 60deg and considering the minute quantities on the OUTSIDE of the atty, superglue might be the best option still as I serously doubt the outside of these things EVER go above 30deg, saying that, carfully applied duct tape might also do a similar job, once stuck on something that stuff NEVER moves ;)
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2012, 06:40:39 PM »
Yes my concern was the reaction with the glue.
I've actually been hospitalised by inhaling cyanide
It was an experience I wouldn't wish on anybody. I had to shower before
anybody would come near me and put all my clothes in a black bin bag and
seal it then put on paper underwear and overall suit. Then in the ambulance
I was put on oxygen and taken to hospital via the rear door so no public
could see. I was put in a small windowless room where there was a doctor
and a nurse dressed in a full air fed chemical suit. When they made sure I'd
took all my clothes and jewellery off and showered they again put me on oxygen
for about 4 hours then declared me fit and healthy and sent me home.

Would no nails be a safer option?

EEEEKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!

But that was raw unadulterated cyanide right, not a by product of a thermal reaction with cyanose acrylate (superglue)?

Hmm "No more nails" not sure about the chemical makeup of that but I think it is a rubber compound and I ruled that out as I was concerned about the thermal reaction with that more than the Superglue.

EEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

You've made me think twice about this now :S

Yes it was "raw unadulterated cyanide" just as it would be from the glue
Cyanide is actually made in most cases as a byproduct in the production of
many things.

It's also in analogues so before you quit you probably inhaled more than you
would from sticking your bits together lol

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 03:17:50 AM »
Well I picked up 2 at the weekend and all I can say is:
PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS

The CE4+'s are bloody awful, they gurgle the draw is dreadful, I can't even describe that I think I might get a hernia trying to get a decent amount of vapour from this thing yet the throat hit is horrendous. I'm so glad I only bought two of these and they were on discount or I might be having a little sob.

They aren't even worth modding to make them live a long and productive life.
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 01:43:08 PM »
Well I picked up 2 at the weekend and all I can say is:
PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS

The CE4+'s are bloody awful, they gurgle the draw is dreadful, I can't even describe that I think I might get a hernia trying to get a decent amount of vapour from this thing yet the throat hit is horrendous. I'm so glad I only bought two of these and they were on discount or I might be having a little sob.

They aren't even worth modding to make them live a long and productive life.

Great review Tara thank you  :))

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 03:02:39 PM »
Sounds like an epic fail.  Thanks for the warning, always good to avoid crappy products.

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 03:04:34 PM »
Yep, stay away from CE4+ and vape the stardust  ;D
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 04:59:27 PM »
Absolutely Dan. Hey Tara another piece of good work. The CE4+ is total crap IMHO, tried one and lasted 2 days, got piles trying to vape the thing  :'(, so binned it. Been vaping Anusol flavour 80%PG / 20%VG, since using that piece of kit. Bum rubbish, only bought cos it was cheap, will I never learn?  :-[ :-[ :-[ 

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 05:59:06 PM »
I only tried two CE4's 
One leaked badly.. the vape was terrible and tasted like burnt plastic.
The other did not feed and tasted like burnt plastic.

Will never buy one again.... even if there free ..... not interested  :-X
If they were my first introduction to vaping I would have gone back to smoking.



On top of that they look really cheap and out of place on an Ego.

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2012, 06:13:24 PM »
I cant believe vendors are still selling this crap,  i have not read one person who has liked the CE4's ???
 

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2012, 06:17:18 PM »
i was going through my kit only 2 days ago and found 3 i had forgot about
2 were cracked and the one i filled cracked as i put it on my mod

binned em all along with the ego c bits i couldnt be bothered with
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2012, 03:35:23 AM »
binned em all along with the ego c bits i couldnt be bothered with

I've been doing a lot of binning and a fair bit of donating recently, I have the vain hope that one day I will have a superstreamlined set up, but Im not holding my breath, I came >< close to placing an order for a Mark T yesterday evening but stopped myself just in time, and I bought a lava mini body in the morning as a back up.....Im a lost cause I tell you!
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2012, 06:36:29 AM »
I cant believe vendors are still selling this crap,  i have not read one person who has liked the CE4's ???
Lucky I never ordered one. Have a couple stardust on the way to try them. Have still some DCT's but had trouble with them too. May be I try them again some time. I don't like to pass something on to my friends when I am not happy with the performance. Still like the CE3's, somehow they work for a long time when I keep them clean and keep filling up. My first eGo-C atty is still working and I am happy with this one too. :)

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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2012, 06:56:10 AM »
I went back to my clearomisers yesterday with my mod box and quite enjoyed it,still loving my stardust though.
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2012, 07:25:01 AM »
I cant believe vendors are still selling this crap,  i have not read one person who has liked the CE4's ???
Lucky I never ordered one. Have a couple stardust on the way to try them. Have still some DCT's but had trouble with them too. May be I try them again some time. I don't like to pass something on to my friends when I am not happy with the performance. Still like the CE3's, somehow they work for a long time when I keep them clean and keep filling up. My first eGo-C atty is still working and I am happy with this one too. :)

I can see what you are saying about not donating if you don't like it, but as we've seen so many times one mans dream vape is a hellish nightmare for others and vice versa so I'm willing to pass stuff on with the caveat of "bin it if you hate it". I also have several friends who are strapped for cash so can't afford to experiment as much as I have and a timely donation can sometimes be the difference between them continuing to vape and finding a peice of kit that works for them or going out and buying a pouch of rolling tobacco.
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2012, 07:53:22 AM »
+1 Tara, I have stuff that I just give away as I don't like it and the other person loves it, 1 mans rubbish is another mans gold....I think that was ebays slogan for a while.
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2012, 08:51:48 AM »
Well I picked up 2 at the weekend and all I can say is:
PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS PANTS

The CE4 's are bloody awful, they gurgle the draw is dreadful, I can't even describe that I think I might get a hernia trying to get a decent amount of vapour from this thing yet the throat hit is horrendous. I'm so glad I only bought two of these and they were on discount or I might be having a little sob.

They aren't even worth modding to make them live a long and productive life.

Thanks for the review, and for taking one for the team on these Tara.  We will deffo avoid these. :)
 
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Re: Vision/Stardust Vs CE4+
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2012, 09:05:19 AM »
Thanks Tara, I was considering tese and won't be bothering now.

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