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Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« on: August 15, 2012, 02:28:48 PM »
I started thinking about this when I purchased a couple of pre-made coils for my vivi nova tank from Avid vapers.

When they arrived the first thing I thought was how did they get such PERFECT COILS?  Nice tight wraps they were nice and close together and uniform.  No matter how hard I tried I could not make my handmade coils look that good.

Every video I watched would tell you to straighten out a paper clip.  Lay the wick on the paper clip and wrap the coil.  The problem with that for me was that the wick would never stay put.  The wick would start out say on top of the paper clip but as soon as I would make the first wrap the wick would slip off to the side or to the bottom and the coils would be wide and uneven.  So I thought how easy it would be if I could wrap the wire first and then put the wick in after the fact.

Enter my jeweler's screwdriver set.  I took out the 2mm screwdriver.  Took a piece of wire and started wrapping the wire around the shaft of the screwdriver.  After doing about 8 wraps I slid the wire off the shaft of the screwdriver.  And there it was a nice perfect coil with all evenly spaced wraps.  Now all I had to do was get the wick inside the coil.

My first attempt was to dip the end of the wick in some water and try to twist it into a nice sharp point.  Like you would do to thread when trying to thread a needle.  Well that failed.  No matter how wet I got the wick it simply would not stay twisted into a nice sharp point.  So I thought what else I could do.  About that time I spotted a candle sitting on the dining room table.  So I lit the candle and then dipped the end of the wick into the liquid wax that had pooled around the burning wick.

I pulled out the wick and quickly twisted the end of the wick with the wax on it between my fingers and rolled it into a nice point and then dipped that into a glass of water to cool the wax.  After the cooling process I gently formed the end of the wick into a nice sharp point as pictured here



After this was done it was a piece of cake to thread the wick right through the coil.  Just like you were threading a needle.  And there I had it.  A perfect coil and wick.

When I initially cut the wick I intentionally cut it about 1/4 inch longer than I wanted the finished product.  This would allow me to cut off the end of the wick I had coated in candle wax, as that end probably would not wick with the wax on it.

And for this experiment I used the 1mm wicking rope.  The nice thing about this method is if you want the coils farther apart to cover more surface area it's just a matter of holding the coil by both ends and gently pulling the coils apart.  If you want them closer together you can hold the coil between your thumb and forefinger and gently squeeze the coil together.

I hope this find will encourage all who struggle with making a nice coil to give this method a try.





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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 02:54:14 PM »
You are my hero.

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 03:09:59 PM »
Great, I have thought about this as well  :D
I figured as you that it must be much easier to do the coil on something steady first and then put the wick in it
I never even tried to do it just knowing that I would fail to get it in. You made it easy thanks  ;D

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 03:13:42 PM »
Glad to be of service @tak_2

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 03:18:13 PM »
That's great Tony, I will give that a try on my next re-wicking and re-coiling.   LOOK at all the things you've found to do while the wife is gone!  I know you're missing her terribly, so I have a little project for you.   Please find me the "holy grail" for vaping -- that should take you a little while!    :))

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 03:23:58 PM »
Well as you know Paulette, I'm pretty easy

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2012, 05:02:17 PM »
 I will give that a go when I next do a re-coil
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2012, 05:04:41 PM »
I like your approach to doing this Tony.   8)

I used some spare nichrome wound tightly at the end to tapper it..... and fished it through like that on one..... it worked but was hard enough for me to not want to do it again.



Will try your method next time.  ;)

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2012, 05:20:46 PM »
Yes Darth I tried the wire around the end of the wick at first

But it would not slide through cleanly and the wick got all frayed.

This works so well that I took a one foot piece of wick.  Made up four coils and slid them all on at once.  Positions them and then simply cut the wicks to length and then cut off the end with the wax on it.

Let's you make multiple wicks all at once
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2012, 05:25:54 PM »
I make the coils for my Phoenix the same way.  I wrap them with a 2mm loop using a jewelers screwdriver, then pull the wick through.  My variation is I use a very fine strand of copper wire to pull it through (obtained from speaker wire).  Works like a treat, as the Brits would say.

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 10:24:17 AM »
that is cool.... :()()
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 11:31:28 AM »
I've heard/seen this being done using the threads of a thin screw.  After you have the coils you want, simply back out the screw.
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 08:06:47 PM »
a small screw as in a 6-32 ?
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 10:31:55 AM »
I'm guessing whatever the final diameter of the coil you want to make.
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 10:36:24 AM »
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2013, 03:43:13 PM »
I'd use a number 4, number 6 is too big.  Keep in mind, numbered screws and drill bits are only found in the US, everyone else uses metric.  That's a another peeve of mine with our insistence in the US on using gauges instead of metric measurements.  I have a whole collection of numbered screws and bits so on one hand I don't want them to disappear, but on the other hand, we need to get ourselves out of the 20th century with these gauges we use on everything.

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2013, 12:34:46 AM »
'Merica!
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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2013, 01:00:54 AM »
Good thinking! I'm going to have to use your idea! Thanks for the post! Happy Vaping.

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2013, 01:23:35 PM »
'Merica!

If your down south that is properly pronounced 'Murika!  :)+1

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2013, 02:21:51 PM »
'Merica!

If your down south that is properly pronounced 'Murika!  :)+1

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2013, 06:36:16 AM »
I'm being real lazy and not reading all the replies so sorry if someones mention any of the below but what i tend to do with my wick is either:

put the tip at the beginning of the coil and twist it around between my thumb and index finger while pushing it through the coil

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get a scrap piece of wire stick it through the wick and pull it through the coil (doesnt work for micro coils though)

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Re: Urika!!! I Figured Out How To Wrap The Perfect Coil
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2014, 10:11:06 AM »
Just been reading a few of these older threads. It's amazing how quickly we have evolved.