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Mods for 14500 battery
« on: May 25, 2012, 07:34:31 AM »
Hello all vapingfriends.

I have come to like the 14500 battery a lot.
It has a perfect small size and holds 900mah that last me most days for usage all day  ;D
And they are extremly cheap on for ex Liberty Flights only £3.99 for a pack of 2 LC 14500 Protected 3.7v 900mAh TF
And If I use the promotion code: LIBERTYFLIGHT I get 15% discount.
That is less than £2 for one battery!
Therefor I have bought 6 batteries  :D

Now to my small problem...
I have only one mod that supports those batteries  ::)
That is my Gary Dibley´s 3.7 box mod I got from Liberty flights.
I will need at least one more cool mod for my bats!  :D
I need you to tell me all about your mods that take this battery?
Or mods you have been thinking about to get.
I cant go around with only one mod can I  ;)
I am interested in all kinds of mods, box, tube, special, VV, unregulated, regulated, DIY....
Links and/or pics are very appreciated  :D



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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 08:04:20 AM »

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 09:08:59 AM »
Found you one but your wallet may not like it  ;D
http://e-cigz.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=160

Ah, that one I have been looking at.
As you say the price is way to high but I have also a feeling it is quite thick.
I was thinking the whole idea with a battery as 14500 is to be able to make small not so wide mods...

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 01:46:10 PM »

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 02:17:02 PM »
Ah a bottomfeeder.
Looks interesting, is it possible to use any kind of atomizer with it? or bottomfeeder mods in general...

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 02:36:45 PM »

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 04:01:53 PM »
Tin box mods, they look like fun  ;D
I am thinking more and more of getting me some parts so I can start to make my own mod  ;D

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2012, 04:07:05 PM »
I think you should give it a go Knoton ;D

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 04:13:39 PM »
You should do that if you like that kind of thing.  Mapvapes sells a box mod kit here for cheap.  I know you're international for US, but maybe there's something available local for you.

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2012, 04:22:05 PM »
Liberty Flight also has some parts.
The biggest problem is soldering for me.
Once I bought a solder iron to fix my youngest broken earphones.
It was very difficult to solder, I really messed them up  :(
Guess with practise I will be better.

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2012, 04:28:03 PM »
Soldering isn't that hard as far as skill required.  In fact, I'd say electronics soldering is easier than soldering for plumbing and art.  The trick is using the right tools and equipment.  It's like 10% skill and 90% what you use.  Check out the soldering tutorial I posted in the mod discussion area.

http://www.thevapersden.com/index.php?topic=61.0

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2012, 04:48:40 PM »
What will I need to make a regulated mod that I can choose between for ex 3.7v,4.0v,4.2v and maybe bypass it and use it unregulated?
To get the best connectors that wont break easily what kind of material should I choose?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2012, 04:50:36 PM by Knoton »

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2012, 05:08:57 PM »
You're talking about a VV or regulated mod which is much more involved.  My advice would be to start with a simple unregulated mod and move to a VV mod once you're comfortable with it.

As far as materials, obviously plastic is not going to be as strong as metal, but it's much easier to work with.  Since they're so cheap anyway, if you break one, just build a new one.

Connectors are available in a wide array of options.  Most are press fit so people just glue them in, but there are some with nuts available

http://www.madvapes.com/Connectors_c_168.html

http://www.avidvaper.com/products/510-modders-connector.html
« Last Edit: May 25, 2012, 05:14:30 PM by CraigHB »

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2012, 09:48:14 PM »
Ah a bottomfeeder.
Looks interesting, is it possible to use any kind of atomizer with it? or bottomfeeder mods in general...

i use the LR atomisers that I get from TW and these work great with the VMod. 

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2012, 10:49:35 AM »
which connector is the best, gold or silver?
What is a "nut" ?

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2012, 04:10:28 PM »
If you look at the second link, you'll see that connector comes with a nut which makes it much easier to install in a box mod.  You don't have to glue it in.

The silver ones are nickel plated which makes them easy to solder.  The gold ones are also plated, but with a gold color, there's no actual gold in the plating.  They are also easy to solder.

All of the connectors are made of brass.  It's not a particularly hard metal and I have issues with the threads wearing out over time myself.  Also, the insulators are soft plastic or rubber.  They have a tendency to break down and short out after a time when using larger, heavier atomizers like rebuildables and DCTs.

I'm actually looking at having a run done through an online machine shop of a connector of my own design.  It uses a stainless body and a hard plastic insulator.  That would be a vitrually indestructable connector.  It will mount with a solderable brass nut behind it (stainless is not solderable).

Here's some pics of my engineering drawing;

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BTW Nick, those pics were created with the 3D CAD program I was telling you I needed to learn.  I've been doing a crash crouse.  It's some amazing software.

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2012, 04:16:59 PM »
Found you one but your wallet may not like it  ;D
http://e-cigz.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=160

Oooo I've been looking at the GG on and off, never knew anybody that had one so have stayed clear.

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2012, 04:25:25 PM »

Once I bought a solder iron to fix my youngest broken earphones.
It was very difficult to solder, I really messed them up  :(


Several things will affect your soldering, the iron needs to be a good one, as does the tip, there are different shapes for different jobs, the same goes with the solder, some solder has different tin/lead ratios to others, some have a flux core and some don't (in which case buying a small tin of flux is an absolute must). In addition to this, not all electronics manufacturers use tin/lead solder at all, I used to work for Marconi and the dept I worked in used primarily precious metal solders, all of which were the proverbial illegitimate son to work with. So don't beat yourself up that you found it hard to fix some headphones, the knack is to keep the tip clean but coated, have a wet sponge, use plenty of flux (and make sure you clean it off with a toothbrush after it is actually corrosive once it starts to oxidise). If you are soldering to vero or pcb then make sure you hold the iron to the wire rather than pressing down on the board, too much direct heat will cuase the laminate to buckle and lift the pad.

I would suggest that you pull apart something old electronic and BROKEN and then play with it, it really is very satisfying to get that perfect solder joint with just the right curve and shine, it is a thing of beauty.

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2012, 12:53:41 AM »
Thanks for tips and links everyone  ;D
One more thing (for the moment anyway) I want to have a batterycharge indicator on my mod.
Is that a lot of more work, what kind of display do I need to show current voltage level of a battery?
I believe that it might get to much for my first mod but good to know for future ones  ;)

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2012, 01:54:55 PM »

BTW Nick, those pics were created with the 3D CAD program I was telling you I needed to learn.  I've been doing a crash crouse.  It's some amazing software.

That's 8) Craig.  Nice drawings..... looks like a nice design for a connector too! :)
 

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2012, 02:04:25 AM »
Hello my vaping friends,

The quest for finding mods using 14500 batteries goes on  ;D

MizzMazanti found one that sounds really promising and doesnt cost me a smaller fortune.
The Nomad DSE 905
But I cant find it in europe anywhere, think it might have become obsolete  :(
If anyone see someone selling them, please let me know.

The most promising find I have done so far is the Bulli Elite.
But that one really cost a smaller fortune, near 100 euro I believe.

Any findings of 14500 mods especially tube mods please report them here  :D

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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
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Re: Mods for 14500 battery
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2012, 02:47:02 AM »
like this?
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=53

Exactly, but as you can see they have 0 in stock.
And they dont even have it listed if you go via their menue system..
Dont think it looks like they gonna get some in the future due to that...  :(

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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2012, 02:50:43 AM »
lol, i never noticed, sorry, well at least I know what your looking for  :)